...BACK from GingerFest 2018!!!

...of course it was a BLAST! A great time meeting fellow Gingerologists and discussing Ginger with... well, other Gingerologists!!! Marge and Gene Padgitt did an incredible job with the proceedings, lined up awesome speakers, and of course Roberta was incredible as well!!! Hope to see y'all there next year!!!

This Day in GINGEROLOGY - July 21st

1973: Ginger is on the panel of judges in the Miss Universe contest, held in Athens, Greece; Miss Philippines Margarita Moran won.

1975: Billy West (born Roy B. Weissburg), who starred with Ginger in the films “Gold Diggers of 1933” (as Medal Winner in ‘Remember My Forgotten Man’ Number), and “Twenty Million Sweethearts” (as Bellboy), died in Hollywood, California, at the age of 82.

2010: TCM aired “Perfect Strangers”.

2015: TCM aired “Star of Midnight”.

2017: TCM aired “Lucky Partners”.


Next GingerFilm(s) (on TCM - all times Eastern):

July 22, 2018 @ 6:30 A.M. Fifth Avenue Girl
July 27, 2018 @ 9:30 A.M. Roberta

Next GingerFilm(s) (on FXM Retro - all times Eastern) - NOTE - the FXM Retro site is kinda 'cryptic' as far as specific times, so please check local listings for 'specific times':

...No Films Scheduled...


Monday, November 14, 2011

Ginger Rogers Film Review #17 - Don't Bet On Love

(July 1, 1933 - Universal Pictures) 

Run Time (approximate): 62 Minutes 
Directed by: Murray Roth. 
Producer: Carl Laemmle. 
Screenplay: Howard E. Rogers, Murray Roth and Ben Ryan.
Based on a Story by: Murray Roth.
Photography by: Jackson Rose.
Art Director: Charles D. Hall.
Edited by: Robert Carlisle. 
Sound Recorder: Gilbert Kurland.
Editorial Supervisor: Maurice Pivar. 
Production Supervisor: E. M. Asher. 
Also Starring: Lew Ayres (as Bill McCaffery), Charley Grapewin (as Pop McCaffery), Shirley Grey (as Goldie Williams), Tom Dugan (as Scotty), Mema Kennedy (as Ruby 'Babe' Norton), Lucile Gleason (as Mrs. Gilbert), Robert Emmett O'Connor (as Edward Shelton).
UNCREDITED CAST: Henry Armetta (as Caparillo the Barber), William Bailey (as Reporter), Brooks Benedict (as Cunningham), Tyler Brooke (as 'passerby'), Clay Clement (as Arnold Ross, Attorney), Mike Donlin (as One of Shelton's Hoods), Bobby Dunn (as Cross-eyed Bettor), Willie Fung (as Charley Lee), June Gittelson (as Heavy Wedding Guest), Al Hill (as One of Shelton's Hoods), Arthur Housman (as One of Shelton's Hoods), Eddie Kane (as Eddie the Bookie), John 'Skins' Miller (as R. M. Bigsby the Undertaker), Lorin Raker (as Reporter), Craig Reynolds (as Reporter), Pepe Sinoff (as Mrs. Rosenbaum), Fred 'Snowflake' Toones (as Snowflake), and Alfred White (as Rosenbaum).
Ginger's Character: Molly Gilbert. 
Ginger's 'Screen Time': Approximately 13 Minutes and 38 Seconds (22.1% of the film).
GingerTunes: None
Gingery Goodness Factor (GGF) - (1-10): 6.5 - A very 'normal' role for Ginger...which typically is quite pleasant in and of itself, but this one would have been a good bit better if Ginger would have been allowed to be a bit more spunky in certain scenes. Maybe she didn't want to 'cut up' too much in front of her 'dream man'... 
Film Quality (1-10): 7.0 - Fair, but not great... no 'commercial' copies available, but eBay and the like have copies available for a nominal fee...
Huey's Review for GINGEROLOGY:   Well, it's a bit interesting that this review is being posted on the 77th anniversary of Ginger's marriage to Mr. Ayres (11/14/34). And, from recent info from various sources (thanks, Whitney!), it appears that Ginger and Lew remained in touch after their eventual breakup in 1940. So, all that to say, this movie is quite interesting for Gingerologists, primarily to see how these two 'hit it off'. Overall, it seems like Ginger is VERY happy to be on this set... and I think her 'real' feelings for Ayres may have 'tempered' her acting here...not that it's bad at all, but, realistically, it would be hard to act out an 'anger' scene with someone you are really trying to win over... if that makes sense.
As for the movie, it's really a pretty easy nut to crack... Ayres plays Bill McCafferty, the son of a plumber (Charles Grapewin); Pop wants Bill to settle in at the shop and plan on taking over the trade. However, Bill is big on playing the ponies (this is where the 'Bet' part of the title comes into play...clever, huh?) - and he has been on a winning streak as of late. Of course, Pop tries to keep him level-headed. 
And, as any rebellious young cuss should be, Bill is enamored with a sweet young lady (our Miss Rogers as Molly Gilbert), whom he has courted to the point of asking for her hand in marriage. She gently rebuffs his proposal, however (which in my mind is like being gently thrown in front of a runaway Mack truck), for she knows full well of his forays into parlays (pretty good word association, eh?)... but he eventually talks her into it.
The wedding is all on track (ANOTHER horse racing pun for ya...), until at the 'pre-wedding party deal', Molly learns that Bill's desire to head to Saratoga for their honeymoon just happens to coincide with the opening of the race season... so she gives him the ultimatum of "It's me or the horses"...and wouldn't ya know it, the horses win out...for a while, at least (insert gooberhead remark here).
Bill heads out to S-town with his sidekick Scotty (Tom Dugan), where Bill wins BIG, and they eventually delve into the 'underbelly' of the gambling game, hooking up with one of the big cheeses, Edward Sheldon (Robert Emmett O'Connor) (BTW, "Robert Emmett" was my paternal granddad's name, and "O'Connor" was my maternal grandma's maiden name...so there ya go...). Of course, Sheldon is crooked as all get out, at the eventual expense of Bill and Scotty... and Bill also has 'woman troubles' along the way with resident Golddigger "Goldie" Williams (Shirley Grey), who somehow tries to frame Bill with letters...er, not sure how, guess I'm pretty ignorant of frame jobs by loose women... which probably shocks y'all to no end...
Anyway, all the unpleasantries get sorted out, and it's not a shock to find Bill and Molly looking in the same direction at the end of the film.
The general 'foreshadowing' of the movie theme as it pertains to Ginger's actual marriage to Ayres is a bit interesting, as the 'addiction' of gambling portrayed in the film could generally be translated into Ayres' 'addiction' of wild nightlife and drinking, as Ginger refers to in her bio, which ultimately destroys their marriage...no happy ending in real life, unfortunately.   

Favorite Ginger Moments: Pretty 'normal' throughout, Ginger is sweet and kind in this one, and level-headed as well... one line she utters that sticks out in my mind is when she is with Bill at a NICE restaurant/nightclub, and she exclaims something to the effect of "$3.50 for our dinner? That's insane!" Pretty funny when you realize that doesn't cover a Quarter Pounder at this point in time...

...We meet Miss Molly at her manicurist station...were manicures originally for men only? If so, when did Womanicures come into vogue?

 ...This dude isn't Ayres...but is definitely working on Molly...

 "You know, I'm a chin man..."

"OK dude, now this is just getting a bit awkward..."

 ...Ah, Billy shows up just in time...

 "...Why, no, Bill...my chin feels fine...why - does it look wrinkled?"

"Dude, you really need to get that chin-grabbing deal under control..."

...Molly and Bill's first screen time together...

..."Thanks for saving me from "Dr. Chin" in there..."

...And it's off to dine... Ginger really seems to be truly happy here...

What kind of ice cream does this joint have?

"...let me guess...you forgot your wallet again..."

...A cute pic, as Molly 'doubles-back' to make sure dude puts his dough in the bank... "It's not that I don't trust you, but it's just that I don't trust anybody..."

One's money couldn't be safer than in a local bank, circa 1933...right?

...Y'all need to move along, and cease all this chin music...

 ...Ginger just looks cool in this shot...

 ...even cooler here, cutting in front of her man-friend...

 "...and most of all, I want a swimming pool! And maybe a few tennis courts..."

 "No problem, doll... I'll get the excavators out on the property tomorrow morning..."

 "...and he's putting in a pool tomorrow morning! I'll need to get my cabana boy Huey on the site to coordinate and design...he's the ONLY one who truly understands my aquatic needs..."

 "What do you mean, the lot is too steep?"

 "Do you know how many metric tons of earth we would have to haul in to level that backyard out?"

 "...and then there's all the construction costs, design fees, hiring a cabana boy..."

 "Listen, I already HAVE a cabana boy! The sooner you get that through your thick skull, the better off you'll be!!!"

"In fact, until you come to grips with the necessity of a pool, I'm just gonna have to call it off, Lew..er, Bill, whatever name you're using now..."

 "Here's yer rock back, jack..."

 "...I just hope I can get back to the house before Huey orders that pallet of shocker..."

"OK, I was WRONG... I know it's of utmost importance to have superior water features on site... now please, reconsider..."

"Well, let me think about it, Lew-Bob..."

"..and of course Huey will be given full reign over all design, construction, setup, and maintenance...he's an artist, Lew... a TRUE artist..."

 "...so you have to keep the pH levels balanced by adding sodium bisulfate to lessen your alkalinity..." 

"You don't even know what effect alkalinity has on a pool's circulation system, do you, Lew?"

"...Ummm-Hmmm...that's what I thought..."

 "So, it's all set, Hu... Lew will have the retaining walls poured by Friday..."

 "You haven't won yet, pool punk..."

"Sorry, Hu, he's just a bit touchy about the bones he's having to sink into this project... he should have done a bit more research as to my 'high-maintenance' status..."

 ...OK, back to the actual 'movie'...this cap is just pretty dang cool, if I DO say so myself...
 ...another pic of the lovely couple...
 ...and an adios...it's honestly sad these two couldn't work it out - as again, it's pretty evident Ginger is very happy in this movie, and that's reason alone to watch it, y'all...

Other Reviews:  
"Lew Ayres, as the plumber, and Ginger Rogers, as the manicurist, make a pleasant team." - New York Times
"Miss Rogers tones her performance down to suit the character and proves a versatility unsuspected in her recent acting." - New York Herald Tribune
"Ayres and Miss Rogers appear to advantage as a team, although there is not much for either of them in the way of acting opportunities. They are a good-looking couple, and it's a pity they weren't married right at the start of the story, for Ginger's charm would undoubtedly have caused Ayres to go straight right away." - Los Angeles Times
"With Lew Ayres and Ginger Rogers in the leads, it is well acted, never assumes pretentiousness and stays right in character all the way through." - Motion Picture Herald 
From GINGER: My Story: "Shortly after I finished Professional Sweetheart, my agent informed me that I was up for the leading lady role in a Universal film, Don't Bet on Love. The star of that movie was Lew Ayres. Lew Ayres! I could hardly believe it. Imagine, I might be cast opposite my idol! Ever since I'd seen him in All Quiet on the Western Front, I'd been nurturing a crush on him." [Ginger then recalls the 'earthquake' story...a pretty telling tale, but a bit too lengthy to include here...buy the book! - Hu]  (continuing...) "A couple of months after our earthquake encounter, production started on Don't Bet on Love. It couldn't begin soon enough for me. Murray Roth, the director, was an angel. He knew that Lew and I had it bad for each other, and he didn't try to exploit the romance by playing tricks on us or humiliating us in front of the rest of the cast. I was wishing we could have filmed forever, but it was only a four-week shoot."   
Miscellaneous Stuff:  
Well, really not much miscellany concerning the film, other than an alternate title of 'In the Money' (wonder where THAT came from...) - so, here's some interesting facts about Mr. Ayres, which most of ya probably already know, but just in case...
--- Was Dr. Kildare, a popular series of films in the late 30's - early 40's.
--- Was a 'conscientious objector' during WWII, as he was generally affected by his role in the 1930 film All Quiet on the Western Front; as a result, Ayres' films were shunned by the American public for quite some time afterward. He would eventually serve in the South Pacific as a medic, and later as a chaplin's aid.
--- Played piano for a big band before delving into acting.
--- Has two stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, one for Motion Pictures, and one for Radio.
--- Is buried in Westwood Memorial Park in L.A., next to Frank Zappa
--- The official time period of the Ginger - Ayres marriage was from November 13, 1934 to March 13, 1940. 
GingerFilm Ranking: #11 of 18...Again, a nice character, but no real 'sassiness' to speak of...and a few long stints within the film w/o Ginger doesn't help matters, either.
After Seventeen Reviews: 
#01 - Professional Sweetheart 
#02 - 42nd Street
#03 - The Tenderfoot
#04 - The Tip-Off
#05 - Queen High
#06 - Young Man of Manhattan
#07 - You Said A Mouthful
#08 - Carnival Boat
#09 - A Shriek in the Night
#10 - The Thirteenth Guest
#11 - Don't Bet On Love 
#12 - Broadway Bad
#13 - Gold Diggers of 1933 
#14 - The Sap From Syracuse
#15 - Suicide Fleet
#16 - Follow The Leader
#17 - Honor Among Lovers
#18 - Hat Check Girl***
*** - Not viewed due to unavailability.

Up Next: Sitting Pretty... Ginger delves into another musical, which would eventually become the last 'Pre-Fred' musical she did... it's a fair movie, from recollection, but my copy is VERY bad... I 'obtained' a better copy, but have to figure out how to view it... hopefully I can sort it out for the review. I DO know that Ginger's performance in 'Did You Ever See a Dream Walking' is a 'Hit Huey over the Head with a Hammer' moment, if y'all catch my drift... :-)

Until then, as always...

KIG, Y'all!!!



  1. Thanks for this great review, Huey, and especially for the priceless photo captions -- they had me laughing out loud! I'm sure that Ginger would have enjoyed having you as her cabana boy, if you all had met back then.:>)
    I always feel so sad when I think of what could have been had Ginger and Lew stayed married, or even if they had made a better movie together after they were further along in their careers -- they almost made a film together in 1949 based on a script called "Birds are Walking", but according to newspaper reports from the time, the project fell through when Ginger decided that she didn't want to compromise her usually big salary for an independent film like that, and the bank couldn't finance such a big salary (Lew wasn't making as much as she was).
    But at least they each left us a great separate body of work on film!

  2. Another one I've never seen, will have to check out ebay! It's been awhile since I've read My Story but did she just have incredibly bad luck in picking jerks for husbands, or were her expectations too high? Well, the last one was a bonafide jerk but were the others really that bad?

  3. rather more entertaining than the lecture i'm actually in, keep the caps coming!!!

  4. wow, I didn't even realize that she & Lew Ayres had done a film together.. I knew they were married but this is so neat! I need to track it down, I love watching real life off-screen couples onscreen! :)

  5. Whitney: Thanks for the kind words! SO glad you enjoyed it... it's pretty fun to make these things up...at first, I just wanted to show a few 'caps' from each film, but by the time I got to the ones that had ample 'Ginger time', the pics were telling stories...and so I started 'riffing' on these... as for Ginger and Lew, it would have been neat to see them in an RKO film...'In Person', perhaps? That one would have probably hit pretty close to home for him, tho, as at that point she had 'exceeded' his popularity, along with most everyone else's...and the plot of that one would have bore that out. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving, Whitney!

    Betsy: Well, it's no doubt all 5 were gooberheads, but to varying degrees, of course...I think Ayres may be the one that fares the best as to 'minimal gooberheadedness' (sorry for using all of these vague technical terms :-] ) - they were in love for sure, but I just think his life style, being a 'typical' Hollywood actor partying all the time, just didn't jibe with her homebody-outdoor-sy life. but yeah, Hub #1 was psychotic (he was fixing to throw her out of a upper level window), hub #2 was Lew, hub #3 was the army guy...seemed ok, but he got on the sauce... hub #4 was the French dude, and he was unfaithful... and hub#5 was mondo into the sauce...
    Have a great T-giving, Betsy! I'm sure you have a bunch of cool things going on for dinner - be sure to document on blog!

    F&GM: Thanks! Hope you made it through your class... sometimes just staying awake is half the battle :-} ...I'll start up on 'Sitting Pretty' soon... Lady F got me a 'cleaner' copy of it, as the one I had was dang near impossible to watch, it is so 'faded'... well, doubt if y'all have Thanksgiving over there, as, for better or worse, Thanksgiving was pretty much the result of us 'separating' from the Mother Country, right? Hopefully y'all aren't still sore at us..:-] Well, if ya dig turkey, go grab one for Thursday dinner anyway!

    KG: Yep, this one is not a 'mainstream' one, at least in the sense of being on TCM and the like... and not sure if Universal is doing much in the way of restorations...seems like they are, but for 'newer' ones (i.e., from the 60's and 70's)... yep, the only other one she made with one of her hubs was 'Twist of Fate' aka 'Beautiful Stranger' - with hub #4, Jacques Bergerac (he was French, by the way... duh) ...hub#3 (Jack Briggs) was to be in one of her movies, 'Tom Dick and Harry', but his stuff ended up being cut out - and this was before they even knew each other.
    Have an awesome Thanksgiving, KG! I love your blog... I don't reply much, but I do keep up with it... you are quite the prolific poster!!!

    Thanks, y'all!!!



  6. No Thanksgiving for us, we seem to give everyone else independence, nothing for us to celebrate really haha. its been 235 years i think can forgive ya'll, you can thank Ginger for that!! ;)

  7. Another excellent review, Huey! I love that the Cabana Boy was weaved into the fabric of your review. Your captions crack me up.

    I will say that Ginger and Ayres made an adorable couple....looked so nice together. If only it had worked out...

    Have a great Thanksgiving, Huey. Remember place the turkey gently into the pot of oil. Do not pretend the pot is a basketball hoop and try a 3 pointer :D

  8. F&GM: That's good to know, as it seems we have quite a few enemies at this point, unfortunately... Ginger would have made quite the ambassador, I believe... I always think of her 'speech' at the end of 'Magnificent Doll'...a bit on the 'corny' side, I guess, but then again, it definitely hits on the reason the U.S. is what it is, for better or worse...usually for the better.
    Well, hope y'all are having a great 'non-descript' weekend, Kat!!!

    Lady F: Thanks for the kind words! I typically work on these 'late at night', and so I have to 'revisit' them the next morning to make sure if they are OK...typically they turn out pretty neat... this one was my fave so far. I can tell the story in the 'review' part, and 'riff' on the caps.
    Everything turned out well regarding the turkey ceremony... I'll probably do a 'general post' here in a minute about miscellaneous stuff... hope your turkey day was a great one, too!!!


  9. This movie is fantastic on dvd



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